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Hello all, |
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AhmedBaghat's fetish and frustrated lengthy rebuttals were perplexed and steamed out in both the cases I presented above, |
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venturing out in circles to distinguish time periods and events in which those verses speak of, with a touch of tasty fruits and rotten blah blahs, and guilty of core concerns unresolved. I hope this time he won't sweat as much for it'll make it simpler in his case, for time, place and event mustn't be a concern because: |
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The Quran challenges mankind to bring a (one) surah like it (2:23 and 10:38): |
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[2:23] Khalifa If you have any doubt regarding what we revealed to our servant, then produce one sura like these, and call upon your own witnesses against GOD, if you are truthful. Yusuf Ali And if ye are in doubt as to what We have revealed from time to time to Our servant, then produce a Sura like thereunto; and call your witnesses or helpers (If there are any) besides God, if your (doubts) are true. Pickthal And if ye are in doubt concerning that which We reveal unto Our slave, then produce a surah of the like thereof, and call your witness beside Allah if ye are truthful. "Progressive Muslims" And if you are in doubt as to what We have sent down to Our servant, then bring a chapter like this, and call upon your witnesses other than God if you are truthful. |
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[10:38] Khalifa If they say, "He fabricated it," say, "Then produce one sura like these, and invite whomever you wish, other than GOD, if you are truthful." Yusuf Ali Or do they say, "He forged it"? say: "Bring then a Sura like unto it, and call (to your aid) anyone you can besides God, if it be ye speak the truth!" Pickthal Or say they: He hath invented it ? Say: Then bring a surah like unto it, and call on all ye can besides Allah, if ye are truthful. "Progressive Muslims" Or do they say he invented it? Say: "Then bring a chapter like it, and call upon whoever you can besides God if you are truthful!" |
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Not satisfied, the Quran further challenges to bring yet another 10 surahs instead of one in precisely the same manner as in 10:38: |
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[11:13] Khalifa If they say, "He fabricated," tell them, "Then produce ten suras like these, fabricated, and invite whomever you can, other than GOD, if you are truthful." Yusuf Ali Or they may say, "He forged it," Say, "Bring ye then ten suras forged, like unto it, and call whomsoever ye can, other than God!- If ye speak the truth! Pickthal Or they say: He hath invented it. Say: Then bring ten surahs, the like thereof, invented, and call on everyone ye can beside Allah, if ye are truthful! "Progressive Muslims" Or do they say: "He invented it!" Say: "Bring ten invented chapters like it, and call on whom you can besides God if you are truthful." |
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If the challenge is not met, then we must acquiesce to the following without being punished: But then, lo and behold, if the challenge is made, they are sent to hell; so much for the challenge in the first place: [22:51] As for those who strive to challenge our revelations, they incur Hell. |
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And here is the challenge met for not one but all ten in Arabic (with English translation on some):
http://suralikeit.com/ |
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Now, Mr. Ahmed, you are at your liberty to bring any or all translations that exists today including the literal one (whatever that means), heck bring your own invented one and see if anyone can patch-up the above 3 verses for me in a consistent, coherent and non-contradicting fashion. |
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If quran is GOD's words as allegedly claimed, then please clarify the following concerns:
1. Was the challenge of one surah not enough for GOD Al-mighty? |
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2. Doesn't the challenge to bring 10 surahs or even one for that matter, reveal weakness in GOD's words by itself in which it speaks? |
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3. Why the challenge in the first place? If GOD guides people whomsoever HE wills, then the question of challenge, whether met or not, shouldn't arise? It seems a forced issue. |
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4. If challenge is not met, then one should believe in it without incurring hell, but when one tries to challenge, one goes straight to hell. Isn't this called, double standards? |
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5. What is the reward for meeting the challenge and why? |
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6. Why the contradiction and inconsistency? |
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7. Once again, 80:15 comes into play, as elaborated earlier. |
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NOTE: people who tell OUTRIGHT LIES about al-quraan yet claim to believe in Al-quraan's divine origin. |