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The story, whether it is true or not is illustrating a point.
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XXX wrote:
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The story, whether it is true or not is illustrating a point.
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That no one should think they can get into paradise on deeds alone but also no one should dispare from the Mercy of Allah or that they won't get into paradise and of course that regardless of how you die, you will be brought back together to face judgement.
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When i first read this topic, this story came to mind straight away so i posted this.
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If you have something better from the Qu'ran that answers it better, then post it, instead of attacking me.
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Well, I was not attacking you, in fact you are the one who did it twice so far, however I was ordered in the Quran to say the truth even if it will hurt myself and my family members, the truth as I witnessed it in this thread that you resorted to a crap of a non sensible hadith by a doubtful man saying illogical things that we don????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¢t know about Allah, yet was presented as if Allah is the one who is saying it, see, now I wonder how you missed that Allah Himself answered that question 35 times in His Quran, the book that me and you should agree that is not stating any conjectures about Allah, here is 5 times out of those 35 times:
Whatever Ayah We abolish or cause it to be forgotten, We bring one better than it or like it. Do you not know that Allah has power over all things?
[The Quran ; 2:106]
مَا نَنسَخْ مِنْ آيَةٍ أَوْ نُنسِهَا نَأْتِ بِخَيْرٍ مِّنْهَا أَوْ مِثْلِهَا أَلَمْ تَعْلَمْ أَنَّ اللّهَ عَلَىَ كُلِّ شَيْءٍ قَدِيرٌ (106)
-> See: ????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬???????????????????????????? أَلَمْ تَعْلَمْ أَنَّ اللّهَ عَلَىَ كُلِّ شَيْءٍ قَدِيرٌ????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬????????????????????????????, i.e. ????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬???????????????????????????? Do you not know that Allah has power over all things?????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬????????????????????????????, that is enough answer to the question of this thread, don????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¢t you reckon mister xxx?
Allah is He Who created seven heavens, and of the earth the like of them; the decree continues to descend among them, that you may know that Allah has power over all things and that Allah indeed encompasses all things in (His) knowledge.
[The Quran ; 65:12]
اللَّهُ الَّذِي خَلَقَ سَبْعَ سَمَاوَاتٍ وَمِنَ الْأَرْضِ مِثْلَهُنَّ يَتَنَزَّلُ الْأَمْرُ بَيْنَهُنَّ لِتَعْلَمُوا أَنَّ اللَّهَ عَلَى كُلِّ شَيْءٍ قَدِيرٌ وَأَنَّ اللَّهَ قَدْ أَحَاطَ بِكُلِّ شَيْءٍ عِلْمًا (12)
-> See, ????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬????????????????????????????لِتَعْلَمُوا أَنَّ اللَّهَ عَلَى كُلِّ شَيْءٍ قَدِيرٌ وَأَنَّ اللَّهَ قَدْ أَحَاطَ بِكُلِّ شَيْءٍ عِلْمًا????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬????????????????????????????, i.e. ????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬???????????????????????????? that you may know that Allah has power over all things and that Allah indeed encompasses all things in (His) knowledge.????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬????????????????????????????, wouldn????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¢t that be another enough answer to the kafir question?
His is the kingdom of the heavens and the earth; He gives life and causes death; and He has power over all things.
[The Quran ; 57:2]
لَهُ مُلْكُ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضِ يُحْيِي وَيُمِيتُ وَهُوَ عَلَى كُلِّ شَيْءٍ قَدِيرٌ (2)
-> See, ????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬???????????????????????????? يُحْيِي وَيُمِيتُ وَهُوَ عَلَى كُلِّ شَيْءٍ قَدِيرٌ????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬????????????????????????????, i.e. ????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬???????????????????????????? He gives life and causes death; and He has power over all things.????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬????????????????????????????, another more than enough answer without the need of hurairah conjecture about Allah.
Have they not considered that Allah, Who created the heavens and the earth and was not tired by their creation, is able to give life to the dead? Aye! He has surely power over all things.
[The Quran ; 46:33]
أَوَلَمْ يَرَوْا أَنَّ اللَّهَ الَّذِي خَلَقَ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضَ وَلَمْ يَعْيَ بِخَلْقِهِنَّ بِقَادِرٍ عَلَى أَنْ يُحْيِيَ الْمَوْتَى بَلَى إِنَّهُ عَلَى كُلِّ شَيْءٍ قَدِيرٌ (33)
-> See, ????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬???????????????????????????? بِقَادِرٍ عَلَى أَنْ يُحْيِيَ الْمَوْتَى بَلَى إِنَّهُ عَلَى كُلِّ شَيْءٍ قَدِيرٌ????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬????????????????????????????, i.e. ????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬???????????????????????????? is able to give life to the dead? Aye! He has surely power over all things.????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬????????????????????????????
Look then at the signs of Allah's mercy, how He gives life to the earth after its death, most surely He will raise the dead to life; and He has power over all things.
[The Quran ; 30:50]
فَانظُرْ إِلَى آثَارِ رَحْمَتِ اللَّهِ كَيْفَ يُحْيِي الْأَرْضَ بَعْدَ مَوْتِهَا إِنَّ ذَلِكَ لَمُحْيِي الْمَوْتَى وَهُوَ عَلَى كُلِّ شَيْءٍ قَدِيرٌ (50)
-> See, ????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬???????????????????????????? كَيْفَ يُحْيِي الْأَرْضَ بَعْدَ مَوْتِهَا إِنَّ ذَلِكَ لَمُحْيِي الْمَوْتَى وَهُوَ عَلَى كُلِّ شَيْءٍ قَدِيرٌ????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬????????????????????????????, i.e. ????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬???????????????????????????? how He gives life to the earth after its death, most surely He will raise the dead to life; and He has power over all things.????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬????????????????????????????
If those 5 verses are not enough that Allah is able to do anything then there are another 30 like them repeated in the same book by Allah Himself.
Actually the same question asked by the boys and girls on FFI, was stated in the Quran:
7) And those who disbelieve say: Shall we point out to you a man who informs you that when you are scattered the utmost scattering you shall then be most surely (raised) in (to) a new creation?
8) He has forged a lie against Allah or there is madness in him. Nay! those who do not believe in the hereafter are in torment and in great error.
[The Quran ; 34:7-8]
وَقَالَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا هَلْ نَدُلُّكُمْ عَلَى رَجُلٍ يُنَبِّئُكُمْ إِذَا مُزِّقْتُمْ كُلَّ مُمَزَّقٍ إِنَّكُمْ لَفِي خَلْقٍ جَدِيدٍ (7)
أَفْتَرَى عَلَى اللَّهِ كَذِبًا أَم بِهِ جِنَّةٌ بَلِ الَّذِينَ لَا يُؤْمِنُونَ بِالْآخِرَةِ فِي الْعَذَابِ وَالضَّلَالِ الْبَعِيدِ (8)
-> See what the disbelievers say: ????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬???????????????????????????? وَقَالَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا هَلْ نَدُلُّكُمْ عَلَى رَجُلٍ يُنَبِّئُكُمْ إِذَا مُزِّقْتُمْ كُلَّ مُمَزَّقٍ إِنَّكُمْ لَفِي خَلْقٍ جَدِيدٍ????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬????????????????????????????, i.e. ????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬???????????????????????????? And those who disbelieve say: Shall we point out to you a man who informs you that when you are scattered the utmost scattering you shall then be most surely (raised) in (to) a new creation????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬????????????????????????????, can you see the words ????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬???????????????????????????? مُزِّقْتُمْ كُلَّ مُمَزَّقٍ????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬????????????????????????????, ????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬????????????????????????????Muzzaqum Kul Mumazaq????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬????????????????????????????, i.e. ????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬???????????????????????????? scattered the utmost scattering????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬????????????????????????????, this should cover any possibility the kafirs come up with, like cremated, evaporated, or even digested, Allah still will be able to bring them back because He is able do anything we can or can not imagine. Those who claim that Allah won????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¢t be able to bring back to life those who have been scattered the most of scattering are nothing but mad liars,:????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬???????????????????????????? He has forged a lie against Allah or there is madness in him????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬????????????????????????????, that must apply to that imaginary man in abu hurairah hadith who thought the exact same.
Indeed the kafirs always think that Allah being able to bring back the dead is far away from reality:
2: Nay! they wonder that there has come to them a warner from among themselves, so the unbelievers say: This is a wonderful thing:
3: What! when we are dead and have become dust? That is afar (from probable) return.
[The Quran ; 50:2-3]
بَلْ عَجِبُوا أَن جَاءهُمْ مُنذِرٌ مِّنْهُمْ فَقَالَ الْكَافِرُونَ هَذَا شَيْءٌ عَجِيبٌ (2)
أَئِذَا مِتْنَا وَكُنَّا تُرَابًا ذَلِكَ رَجْعٌ بَعِيدٌ (3)
-> See what the kafirs say: ????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬???????????????????????????? أَئِذَا مِتْنَا وَكُنَّا تُرَابًا ذَلِكَ رَجْعٌ بَعِيدٌ????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬????????????????????????????, i.e. ????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬???????????????????????????? What! when we are dead and have become dust? That is afar (from probable) return.????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬????????????????????????????
In the Quran we read that those who didn????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¢t believe that Allah will be able to bring them back from the dead are indeed doomed to the contrary of the fake hadith by abu hurairah:
50: Then shall some of them advance to others, questioning each other.
51: A speaker from among them shall say: Surely I had a comrade of mine,
52: Who said: What! are you indeed of those who accept (the truth)?
53: What! when we are dead and have become dust and bones, shall we then be certainly brought to judgment?
54: He shall say: Will you look on?
55: Then he looked down and saw him in the midst of hell.
56: He shall say: By Allah! you had almost caused me to perish;
[The Quran ; 37:50-56]
فَأَقْبَلَ بَعْضُهُمْ عَلَى بَعْضٍ يَتَسَاءلُونَ (50)
قَالَ قَائِلٌ مِّنْهُمْ إِنِّي كَانَ لِي قَرِينٌ (51)
يَقُولُ أَئِنَّكَ لَمِنْ الْمُصَدِّقِينَ (52)
أَئِذَا مِتْنَا وَكُنَّا تُرَابًا وَعِظَامًا أَئِنَّا لَمَدِينُونَ (53)
قَالَ هَلْ أَنتُم مُّطَّلِعُونَ (54)
فَاطَّلَعَ فَرَآهُ فِي سَوَاء الْجَحِيمِ (55)
قَالَ تَاللَّهِ إِنْ كِدتَّ لَتُرْدِينِ (56)
-> I call the above verses It????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¢s showtime, it is the time where some of the believers will wonder: ????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬???????????????????????????? Then shall some of them advance to others, questioning each other.????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬????????????????????????????, ????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬???????????????????????????? speaker from among them shall say: Surely I had a comrade of mine,????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬???????????????????????????? the comrade of his used to say:????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬???????????????????????????? What! when we are dead and have become dust and bones, shall we then be certainly brought to judgment?????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬????????????????????????????, that is what the guy in abu hurairah heresay hadith thought of, he thought that if his family scattered all his ashes every where, Allah won????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¢t be able to bring him back from the dead to face Judgment, right?, well, in the above verses Allah has replied to the believers who are wondering about such people :????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬???????????????????????????? He (Allah) shall say: Will you look on?????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬????????????????????????????, Allah is asking to believers to have a look at that loser who used to say: What! when we are dead and have become dust and bones, shall we then be certainly brought to judgment?, and this is what the believers should see:????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬???????????????????????????? Then he looked down and saw him in the midst of hell.????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬????????????????????????????, to the contrary of what hurairah told us that Allah forgave one of those disbelievers who didn????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¢t believe that Allah is able to bring him back from the dead regardless how his ashes has been scattered.
If all the above Quran answers are not enough then Allah yet explained this issue to us through a couple of His prophets, at least the following 2 stories are for real and 100% as far as a believer in the Quran is concerned, the following two stories can not be conjectures because they were told to us by Allah Himself not by abu hurairah:
259: Or the like of him (Uzair) who passed by a town, and it had fallen down upon its roofs; he said: When will Allah give it life after its death? So Allah caused him to die for a hundred years, then raised him to life. He said: How long have you tarried? He said: I have tarried a day, or a part of a day. Said He: Nay! you have tarried a hundred years; then look at your food and drink-- years have not passed over it; and look at your ass; and that We may make you a sign to men, and look at the bones, how We set them together, then clothed them with flesh; so when it became clear to him, he said: I know that Allah has power over all things.
260: And when Ibrahim said: My Lord! show me how Thou givest life to the dead, He said: What! and do you not believe? He said: Yes, but that my heart may be at ease. He said: Then take four of the birds, then train them to follow you, then place on every mountain a part of them, then call them, they will come to you walking; and know that Allah is Mighty, Wise
[The Quran ; 2:259-260]
أَوْ كَالَّذِي مَرَّ عَلَى قَرْيَةٍ وَهِيَ خَاوِيَةٌ عَلَى عُرُوشِهَا قَالَ أَنَّىَ يُحْيِي هََذِهِ اللّهُ بَعْدَ مَوْتِهَا فَأَمَاتَهُ اللّهُ مِئَةَ عَامٍ ثُمَّ بَعَثَهُ قَالَ كَمْ لَبِثْتَ قَالَ لَبِثْتُ يَوْمًا أَوْ بَعْضَ يَوْمٍ قَالَ بَل لَّبِثْتَ مِئَةَ عَامٍ فَانظُرْ إِلَى طَعَامِكَ وَشَرَابِكَ لَمْ يَتَسَنَّهْ وَانظُرْ إِلَى حِمَارِكَ وَلِنَجْعَلَكَ آيَةً لِّلنَّاسِ وَانظُرْ إِلَى العِظَامِ كَيْفَ نُنشِزُهَا ثُمَّ نَكْسُوهَا لَحْمًا فَلَمَّا تَبَيَّنَ لَهُ قَالَ أَعْلَمُ أَنَّ اللّهَ عَلَى كُلِّ شَيْءٍ قَدِيرٌ (259)
وَإِذْ قَالَ إِبْرَاهِيمُ رَبِّ أَرِنِي كَيْفَ تُحْيِي الْمَوْتَى قَالَ أَوَلَمْ تُؤْمِن قَالَ بَلَى وَلَكِن لِّيَطْمَئِنَّ قَلْبِي قَالَ فَخُذْ أَرْبَعَةً مِّنَ الطَّيْرِ فَصُرْهُنَّ إِلَيْكَ ثُمَّ اجْعَلْ عَلَى كُلِّ جَبَلٍ مِّنْهُنَّ جُزْءًا ثُمَّ ادْعُهُنَّ يَأْتِينَكَ سَعْيًا وَاعْلَمْ أَنَّ اللّهَ عَزِيزٌ حَكِيمٌ (260)
-> Verse 2:259 is telling us about a story that happened to prophet Uzair, he was riding his donkey somewhere then saw a town that was totally dead so he wondered when Allah can revive it: ????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬???????????????????????????? Or the like of him (Uzair) who passed by a town, and it had fallen down upon its roofs; he said: When will Allah give it life after its death?????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬????????????????????????????, Allah quickly proved it to him because he was one of His chosen prophets: ????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬???????????????????????????? So Allah caused him to die for a hundred years, then raised him to life.????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬????????????????????????????, 100 years he was dead, surely all the liquid in his body have evaporated in the air, and for 100 years only God knows where every molecule in his body has gone, so after Allah revived Uzair, it comes the lesson time:????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬???????????????????????????? He (Allah) said: How long have you tarried?????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬????????????????????????????, for a dead man it felt like one day or less: ????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬???????????????????????????? He (Uzair) said: I have tarried a day, or a part of a day.????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬????????????????????????????, but the truth is, he tarried for a 100 years:????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬???????????????????????????? Said He: Nay! you have tarried a hundred years; then look at your food and drink-- years have not passed over it; and look at your ass; and that We may make you a sign to men, and look at the bones, how We set them together, then clothed them with flesh;????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬????????????????????????????, what an overwhelming lesson, Uzair saw in front of his eyes how Allah revived his donkey, this made Uzair submit to Allah and say: ????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬???????????????????????????? فَلَمَّا تَبَيَّنَ لَهُ قَالَ أَعْلَمُ أَنَّ اللّهَ عَلَى كُلِّ شَيْءٍ قَدِيرٌ????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬???????????????????????????? , ????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬???????????????????????????? so when it became clear to him, he said: I know that Allah has power over all things????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬????????????????????????????
-> In the following verse 2:260, Allah is giving us another real example of how He has the power to revive the dead, the example is a true story that happened to prophet Ibrahim. Ibrahim one day wondered a similar wonder as prophet Uzair wondered in the previous verse, How Allah revives the dead?:????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬???????????????????????????? And when Ibrahim said: My Lord! show me how Thou givest life to the dead,????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬????????????????????????????, this does not mean that Ibrahim was not a believer at the time rather he wanted an assurance due to the massive message he is carrying to his people knowing that they will oppose him viciously, so Allah replied to Ibrahim question:????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬???????????????????????????? He (Allah) said: What! and do you not believe?????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬????????????????????????????, obviously Allah knows that Ibrahim is a believer, it is a lesson for us (average believers) that we should not wonder about this issue of reviving the dead, that is what a believer should be, so Ibrahim replied confirming his belief and confirming that he only wants to see it so his heart feel comfortable about it:????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬???????????????????????????? He (Ibrahim) said: Yes, but that my heart may be at ease.????????????????????????????¢?????????????????????¢??????????????????????¬????????????????????????????, then Allah showed him the miracle of
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