SlaveofAllaah wrote:
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Good article, with the last paragraph, just got to research with my limitied knowledge it was as a mercy to the Arabs at that time who used to have more then 10 and in some cases more than that.
One of the Sahabi had 11 wives after this verse was revealed he divorced rest 7.
but a good explanation as 4:3 and 4:129 are different
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Salam mate,
Here is the rest of my article if you would like to examine it with me:
This is a verse that I classify one of those Mutashabihat verses mnetioned in 3:7, the reason is simply as follow:
1) It is the only verse that discusses polygamy, i.e. we can't use the Quran to explain it
2) There are many different understandings, some clearly conflict with the spirit of the Quran (Especially Regarding Orphans)
3) Because the verse is talking about an important law and is also Mutashabihat, the law in it was overwritten with another law, IRONICALLY, the other law is in the same verse (Subhan Allah):
"If ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, Marry women of your choice, Two or three or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one, or that your right hands possess, that will be more suitable, to prevent you from doing injustice.)
[The Quran ; 4:3]
وَإِنْ خِفْتُمْ أَلاَّ تُقْسِطُواْ فِي الْيَتَامَى فَانكِحُواْ مَا طَابَ لَكُم مِّنَ النِّسَاء مَثْنَى وَثُلاَثَ وَرُبَاعَ فَإِنْ خِفْتُمْ أَلاَّ تَعْدِلُواْ فَوَاحِدَةً أَوْ مَا مَلَكَتْ أَيْمَانُكُمْ ذَلِكَ أَدْنَى أَلاَّ تَعُولُواْ (3)
-> The verse started with a problem related to the orphans: If ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans'?, the first impression is Orphans means "Orphaned boys and girls?, others say the orphans in the verse means Orphaned girls only?, they also suggest those orphaned girls are ready for marriage i.e. orphaned women, the problem in hand which is fearing to be just to the orphans is also understood differently by others, some suggest by not taking good care of them, others suggest to be specifically relating to the orphaned women who are ready to marry and they have wealth and the men fear after marrying them not to be just by joining the orphened women wealth with theirs.
This is a very stranage indeed, we need all that assumptions for their understanding to be true, i.e.:
1) 4:3 is only talking about orphaned women
2) those orphaned women are ready for marriage
3) those orphaned wemen are wealthy
I believe they based their understanding on the previous verse:
" To orphans restore their property (When they reach their age), nor substitute (your) worthless things for (their) good ones; and devour not their property (by mixing it up) with your own. For this is indeed a great sin.
[The Quran ; 4:2]
وَآتُواْ الْيَتَامَى أَمْوَالَهُمْ وَلاَ تَتَبَدَّلُواْ الْخَبِيثَ بِالطَّيِّبِ وَلاَ تَأْكُلُواْ أَمْوَالَهُمْ إِلَى أَمْوَالِكُمْ إِنَّهُ كَانَ حُوبًا كَبِيرًا (2)
-> Again 4:2 only mentioned the Orphans in general '????Boys and Girls:, Allah is advising us : To orphans restore their property (When they reach their age), nor substitute (your) worthless things for (their) good ones; and devour not their property (by mixing it up) with your own. For this is indeed a great sin.?, the verse NEVER EVER stated that it is a case of marriage that we should not mix the orphaned property with ours when we marry them,
-> 4:2 is very clear and is not mutashabihat, they only selected a specific case that should be covered under the general rule of not abusing the property of the Orphans, I guess they were trying to prove their understanding to 4:3 that it meant this case of not being fair with the orphaned women, what is stricking that what they try to convince us with regarding marrying the orphaned women IS MENTIOJED EXACTLY AS THEY SAID IN 4:127, here it is:
" And they ask you a decision about women. Say: Allah makes known to you His decision concerning them, and that which is recited to you in the Book concerning female orphans whom you do not give what is appointed for them while you desire to marry them, and concerning the weak among children, and that you should deal towards orphans with equity; and whatever good you do, Allah surely knows it. "
وَيَسْتَفْتُونَكَ فِي النِّسَاء قُلِ اللّهُ يُفْتِيكُمْ فِيهِنَّ وَمَا يُتْلَى عَلَيْكُمْ فِي الْكِتَابِ فِي يَتَامَى النِّسَاء الَّلاتِي لاَ تُؤْتُونَهُنَّ مَا كُتِبَ لَهُنَّ وَتَرْغَبُونَ أَن تَنكِحُوهُنَّ وَالْمُسْتَضْعَفِينَ مِنَ الْوِلْدَانِ وَأَن تَقُومُواْ لِلْيَتَامَى بِالْقِسْطِ وَمَا تَفْعَلُواْ مِنْ خَيْرٍ فَإِنَّ اللّهَ كَانَ بِهِ عَلِيمًا (127)
[The Quran ; 4:127]
-> See, but the problem is, I see no relation whatsoever between 4:3 and 4:127, neither 4:3 and 4:2, however it is still a possibility as there is nothing firm from the Quran to refute it, I guess it can be relative here, even relative regarding what orphans means, some may say losing any of the parents, some say they lost both their parents, another confusing matter
-> Now after we saw that the problem in hand is very confusing and can have more than one meaning, we will also find that the solution proposed is confusing and can have more than one meaning: Marry women of your choice, Two or three or four;?, ok, whom exactly they will marry?, is it :
1) Any other woman
2) The mother of the orphans, or
3) Another woman but must not be an orphaned women
Again each one can possibly apply with a percentage according to the logic, we may sense that one option has a higher possibility than the other, but all three options still have a percentage even if it is 1%
-> How Allah do this to us? I mean we have a serious problem in hand which was not very clear and the solution is even not clearer, but what we can sense that the solution is good for men and bad for women, I guess most men know that, and I guess most of them will also be in the favour of marrying more than one, but hold on a second horny men, the solution was conditioned:? but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one, or that your right hands possess?, now we have a mutashabihat condition as well, I guess the condition can be mutashabihat because some men may think they can be fair with women hence they will go for marrying more than 1, and others will never even think about it and just marry more than one, it doesnt matter for them if they will deal justly and equally with their wives, in fact they always lean not to be and even deliberately
-> I found it amazing that we have the following a mutashabihat problem, a mutashabihat solution and a mutashabihat condition all fell in one verse that I call mutashabihat verse, however verse 4:129 in the same sura demolish the mutashabihat condition and takes it out of the human judgment:
"Ye are never able to be fair and just as between women, even if it is your ardent desire...... "
وَلَن تَسْتَطِيعُواْ أَن تَعْدِلُواْ بَيْنَ النِّسَاء وَلَوْ حَرَصْتُمْ (129)
[The Quran ; 4:129]
-> Here we go, clearly Allah is telling us in the above Muhkam verse that: ? Ye are never able to be fair and just as between women, even if it is your ardent desire?, therefore, this important piece of information in this Muhkam verse should force the mutashabihat condition in 4:3, and should make our fear not to treat our multiple wives equally and justly a reality and a fact as well we were told that there no way out of it we will always be unfair to mutiple wives, it is in the Hu_Man nature.
I can't lie and say that I didn't try to chase the meaning of 4:3, but my chase was only to see where all other understanding are coming from, NOT TO FIOLLOW ANY OF THEM, as my decision was already made according to 4:129 in conjunction with 4:3 that true submitters to Allah from the men race should only marry ONE
Therefore 4:3 for me is a mutashabihat verse by design but it still virtually a muhkam verse because it complies with 3:7, when I say it complies perfectly with 3:7 I meant the following:
1) The enemy of Islam used the verse to cause discord between the believers and the others to show that our religion is sort of a lusty one
2) Many of the believers followed different understandings because it will work in their favours that way
3) Seeing the solution practised in my culture and even in my family then realizing The discord? and the horrible effects it brings on the wives and the children, made me believe it is not practised right, I hardly see polygamy practised for the sake of orphans anyway, I only see it practised because of lust or because husbands got sick of their aging wives, yet I hardly see any polygamy that is working in a peaceful environment between the parties involved
And my strongest argument is: it is obvious that 4:129 overwrites 4:3 therefore there is no need to chase the meaning of the mutashabihat bits in 4:3 after the decision is already made to follow the muhakm verse 4:129 and not to follow any of the different understandings for 4:3
Salam
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