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Hi,

I want to know , whether All the miracles mentioned in Quran are scientific?

Can these Miracle be explained by science.?

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Hi,

I want to know , whether All the miracles mentioned in Quran are scientific?

Can these Miracle be explained by science.?

Regards,
MAK



Hello MAK

Welcome to FI

Please feel free to express your views

for me the Quran is not a scientific book, nor the miracles mentioned in it can be explained with the current science we have

a couple of examples are:
1) The talking hell
2) the creation of Isa

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AhmedBahgat wrote:

a couple of examples are:
1) The talking hell
2) the creation of Isa

Salam


Thanks for your welcome.

For Me, Quran is a scientific book. And each and every verse follows scientific ALLAH's laws.

If anyone can�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??t explain any facts from Quran, like Creation of ISA through science. Then it is the lack of knowledge that person is having about Quran.

May be you can convince everyone that Miracles are unscientific, but you cannot convince any nonmuslims.

Whatever ALLAH does, that is Final. He will not make updates to his creation. As Allah created Science, then he will never change Science.

Allah says in Quran , Surah 35 , Verses 43
You will find that GOD's system is never changeable; you will find that GOD's system is immutable

This means that no one can change the science laws, and even ALLAH will not change it. Because whatever he created is Final and complete.

If you say that creation of ISA is unscientific, then it doesn�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??t mean that you are going against these verses of Quran Surah 35, Verses 43.

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QuranandScience wrote:
AhmedBahgat wrote:

a couple of examples are:
1) The talking hell
2) the creation of Isa

Salam


Thanks for your welcome.

For Me, Quran is a scientific book. And each and every verse follows scientific ALLAH's laws.

If anyone can�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??t explain any facts from Quran, like Creation of ISA through science. Then it is the lack of knowledge that person is having about Quran.

May be you can convince everyone that Miracles are unscientific, but you cannot convince any nonmuslims.

Whatever ALLAH does, that is Final. He will not make updates to his creation. As Allah created Science, then he will never change Science.

Allah says in Quran , Surah 35 , Verses 43
You will find that GOD's system is never changeable; you will find that GOD's system is immutable

This means that no one can change the science laws, and even ALLAH will not change it. Because whatever he created is Final and complete.

If you say that creation of ISA is unscientific, then it doesn�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??t mean that you are going against these verses of Quran Surah 35, Verses 43.

Regards,
MAK


Hello

Can you please explain to me how the following is explained scientifically:

1) The jinn
2) The talking Hell
3) The creation of Adam
4) The creation of Isa
5) The age of Noah
6) Ibrahim not burnt inside the fire
7) The whale swollowing Yunis then spitting him put
8) The angels
9) Isa reviving the dead
10) God

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AhmedBahgat wrote:

Hello

Can you please explain to me how the following is explained scientifically:

1) The jinn
2) The talking Hell
3) The creation of Adam
4) The creation of Isa
5) The age of Noah
6) Ibrahim not burnt inside the fire
7) The whale swollowing Yunis then spitting him put
Cool The angels
9) Isa reviving the dead
10) God

Cheers


Yes , all these things can be explained scientifically.

That means you agree that you cant proof this scientifically.

And i am sure that , you dont want to hear a scientific explaination of these things.Because you want to believe in miracles.

I have seen your attitude , when i explained about Moses crossing the red sea. You dint agree because you dont want to agree.

This is the problem because, all this miracles are printed in our brains by our parents and our society. its difficult to think outside this Miracles.

People say , to read quran we should be in Wazu (physically clean).

But i am sorry to say that, to read Quran first thing is to be mentally clean that is Wazu, we should not have already printed miracle stories in our Brain about Quran.

Your Brother,
MAK
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AhmedBahgat wrote:

Hello

Can you please explain to me how the following is explained scientifically:

1) The jinn
2) The talking Hell
3) The creation of Adam
4) The creation of Isa
5) The age of Noah
6) Ibrahim not burnt inside the fire
7) The whale swollowing Yunis then spitting him put
Cool The angels
9) Isa reviving the dead
10) God

Cheers


QuranandScience wrote:
Yes , all these things can be explained scientifically.


Good morning bro

I didn't ask for all things to be explained, i only asked for 10 things to be explained

can you please start explaining them?

cheers

QuranandScience wrote:
That means you agree that you cant proof this scientifically.


Not at all, I didn't tell that I agree with such and such, it only indicate that I'm willing to listen to your explanation

QuranandScience wrote:
And i am sure that , you dont want to hear a scientific explaination of these things.Because you want to believe in miracles.


well, if you are going to talk non sense then yes I dont want to hear that, but if you are going to talk logic, sure I want to hear that

QuranandScience wrote:
I have seen your attitude , when i explained about Moses crossing the red sea. You dint agree because you dont want to agree.


Because what you claimed that the word Assa means group of people is noting but load of nin sense, sorry

QuranandScience wrote:
This is the problem because, all this miracles are printed in our brains by our parents and our society. its difficult to think outside this Miracles.


I'm sorry, it is not printed in my brain because of my parents, it is printed in my brain because this is what the Quran said

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People say , to read quran we should be in Wazu (physically clean).


so?

QuranandScience wrote:
But i am sorry to say that, to read Quran first thing is to be mentally clean that is Wazu, we should not have already printed miracle stories in our Brain about Quran.
Your Brother,
MAK


ok, are you going to start explaining those 10 issues, you can do it one at a time

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QuranandScience wrote:

People say , to read quran we should be in Wazu (physically clean).
But i am sorry to say that, to read Quran first thing is to be mentally clean that is Wazu, we should not have already printed miracle stories in our Brain about Quran.


To be mentally clean, rotate toothbrush in your ears, LOL!!!! Haaaaa! Haaaaa! Haa!

Heres small science, take a good sensentive multimeter n measure your static energy. Perform physical wazu and measure again. Bingo! what do you call this scinece? miricale?

Now you mr.science perform the same mentally and prove it.


This is the problem because, all this miracles are printed in our brains by our parents and our society. its difficult to think outside this Miracles.

Really!
Heres the hard part, your mind is full of conjectures, manuplations & lies. Which has been taught logically to you by s...heads. Nothing new, not even piece of your intelligence. How sad!


Mod-Edit: You did well but in the end, lost your cool.

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AhmedBahgat wrote:
AhmedBahgat wrote:

Hello

Can you please explain to me how the following is explained scientifically:

1) The jinn
2) The talking Hell
3) The creation of Adam
4) The creation of Isa
5) The age of Noah
6) Ibrahim not burnt inside the fire
7) The whale swollowing Yunis then spitting him put
Cool The angels
9) Isa reviving the dead
10) God

Cheers


QuranandScience wrote:
Yes , all these things can be explained scientifically.


Good morning bro

I didn't ask for all things to be explained, i only asked for 10 things to be explained

can you please start explaining them?

cheers

QuranandScience wrote:
That means you agree that you cant proof this scientifically.


Not at all, I didn't tell that I agree with such and such, it only indicate that I'm willing to listen to your explanation

QuranandScience wrote:
And i am sure that , you dont want to hear a scientific explaination of these things.Because you want to believe in miracles.


well, if you are going to talk non sense then yes I dont want to hear that, but if you are going to talk logic, sure I want to hear that

QuranandScience wrote:
I have seen your attitude , when i explained about Moses crossing the red sea. You dint agree because you dont want to agree.


Because what you claimed that the word Assa means group of people is noting but load of nin sense, sorry

QuranandScience wrote:
This is the problem because, all this miracles are printed in our brains by our parents and our society. its difficult to think outside this Miracles.


I'm sorry, it is not printed in my brain because of my parents, it is printed in my brain because this is what the Quran said

QuranandScience wrote:
People say , to read quran we should be in Wazu (physically clean).


so?

QuranandScience wrote:
But i am sorry to say that, to read Quran first thing is to be mentally clean that is Wazu, we should not have already printed miracle stories in our Brain about Quran.
Your Brother,
MAK


ok, are you going to start explaining those 10 issues, you can do it one at a time

Cheers


Yes i will explain , all these miracles one by one in the FFI forum.

Please spend some half an hour and take any Lugat-ul-Quran and check the meanings of Assa.

Regards,
MAK
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Thank you MAK

take you time and you may also do one point at a time

do you have any links to that book you mnetioned?

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AhmedBahgat wrote:
Thank you MAK

take you time and you may also do one point at a time

do you have any links to that book you mnetioned?

Cheers


I have that book in my library.


I will try to find any link for you.

Regards,
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Hi,

I want to know , whether All the miracles mentioned in Quran are scientific?

Can these Miracle be explained by science.?

Regards,
MAK


# hi! just so that v can better understand ur explanations, do let us know what u understand by "science" and "miracles." and while u are it, also talk us thru god in the light of science! (-:
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Salam Brother The,

Glad to see you after a long time where have you been hiding Mr. Green
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Salam Brother The,

Glad to see you after a long time where have you been hiding Mr. Green



Indeed bro SOA

delighted and shocked to see brother The

this is what should be good about FI, it is a place for those who struggle with the enemy (being within or others) all over the net and need a place to have a break


Welcome brother Tha

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QuranandScience wrote:
Hi,

I want to know , whether All the miracles mentioned in Quran are scientific?

Can these Miracle be explained by science.?

Regards,
MAK


Greetings and welcome Q&S.

Salaams.

I agree with Ahmed. If you read Qur'aan, you will notice that it is not a book of science. It is a book of reasoning and arguments by Allah via dialogue with Dahr (Insaan).

Let us take the example of destruction of Samood. "Saihataun Wahida", meaning a loud bang, which was in fact a huge earthquake in that area. Then we have Reehin Sarsarin" for Qaume Aa'd (I hope I am not wrong here and please correct me if I am), Blasting Winds in the desert, literally sandstorms at such speed that it sandblasted the cruel people. Marajal-Bahrain, at the conjuction point where the river meets the sea and the water in the deltaic area is no more pleasant to drink and so on. All is explained to the people to believe in the Creator. The language is real and also metaphorical and figurative.

God does not teach Science in Qur'aan. However, there are places where the description of unknowns at the time, is superb and marvellous. For example, the darkness of the depths in the ocean and the plying up of clouds upon clouds is dazzling. (Surah Noor)

It is all about Alam tara? I would love to hear from you on the verse that talks about mountains and says if there were no mountains, the earth would have "un tameeda bay-him", which is usually translated as "would have slipped under their feet. I will tell you more about this if you throw some light first.

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There is a French scientist who was part of the team that discovered the remains of a pharaoh that was buried under the red sea. This man used to be an atheist (like most scientists) and then somehow came in contact with the Quran and discover some verses which according to him described scientifically many astral/planetary concepts which were only discovered in modern times. His name is Maurice Bucaille and here is a website where he answers some questions about his faith:

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